Happy Together I 해피투게더 EP.625 Part.2 [ENG/2020.02.13]On February 14, 2020 by Raul Dinwiddie
– How scary! / – How did they get in? – That’s scary. / – The old lady felt bad for the girls. They were waiting outside for hours. The girls wanted to see us, so she invited them in. “They are sleeping. You can come in and look.” – You were like her son. / – That’s right. – She did it out of consideration. / – That’s right. “They are sleeping. You can come in and look.” “Just make sure to be quiet.” What did the girls say? They didn’t say a word. – What did they do? / – They just smiled and looked at me with love in their eyes. What did you say? “Is this reality? Is this a dream?” Since they were our fans, – we couldn’t do anything. / – That’s right. – You were so taken aback. / – I was too taken aback to do anything. – My goodness. / – I remember that. Jaejin, what did you do when you opened your eyes? I remember something else about those days. It was winter. We lived there from January of 1997. We had to wash our hair in the front yard. It was really hard. We wanted a different story. It was really hard. (That wasn’t what we asked.) What are you talking about? That’s not what we asked. That’s a different story. The agency didn’t find us a place. He delved into his struggles. Why did you suddenly bring that story up? We had to use cold water. – His hair probably froze. / – Let me be professional – and change the subject. / – Show us your skills. – Sure. / – Go ahead. If only he answered the question that he was asked. H.O.T and SECHSKIES were rivals at that time. I hear that you even fought for – the better waiting room. / – Really? We never viewed each other as rivals in that sense, but our staff wanted to acquire a better waiting room for us. That would happen. Our manager would come by and say he acquired the larger… – Waiting room? / – Yes, and in a triumphant way. – He’d tell you that? / – Yes. Our stylists would also say victoriously – that we had cooler outfits. / – I see. The staff claimed victory? Yes, more than us. – They prepared a lot. / – They’d egg us on, actually. NRG, you guys were active around the same time too. How big was your waiting room? In our case, it differed from time to time. H.O.T and SECHSKIES would fight over – the biggest rooms. / – Only they could use them? If those two groups were performing that day, we’d be given a smaller room or be made to share. – That’s how it was? / – Yes. My teammates and I were men of pride, so we’d stay in the van instead. (We’d rather stay in the van.) – And not in a room? / – You wouldn’t use a room. We stayed in our van instead. Let’s say we were at a smaller network though. Those channels… – Aren’t they cable networks? / – That’s right. H.O.T and SECHSKIES never made an appearance there. So at that broadcasting station, we’d take the master suite. – The biggest room? / – Yes. What about when TAESAJA was around? TAESAJA? Honestly, I’d be going off subject if I were to talk about them. – No, it’s within the scope. / – Really? – Of course. / – Go ahead. – Well, back then… / – We can expand the scope to NRG and TAESAJA. – It’s possible. / – You two were rivals too. According to the data, we had similar success, but you can’t call them our rivals. They were nearly as popular as you. TAESAJA could be seen as having similar success. I guess you can say that but… But NRG didn’t even consider them? We didn’t see them as our rivals. – Right. / – In fact… Then who was NRG’s rival? We thought it was H.O.T. – What about SECHSKIES? / – And SECHSKIES? They were pushed aside. Can you be clear with your words? What exactly are you saying? Please be clearer with your words. I can’t since it wasn’t proven to be real. No matter what the members of H.O.T think, NRG considered H.O.T as its rival. It’s mainly because we first debuted as a group called Hamo Hamo. (He debuted as a member) (Hamo Hamo with Lee Sungjin.) And when we debuted, so did H.O.T with “Warrior’s Descendant”. (H.O.T exploded onto the scene.) We had to quit the band against our will because of them. Sungjin and I decided to try again but as a bigger team this time, so we gathered other teammates. Being immature back then, we got together just so that we could take H.O.T down. (His expression tells you that he was determined.) Everyone wanted to say No Yoomin’s line at the karaoke. – The line from “Breakfast at Tiffany’s”. / – Yoomin. If bringing down H.O.T was your goal, then you would’ve gotten along well with Jaejin. He should’ve been on your team. Here’s something interesting. The leaders didn’t want to lose to each other and because of that, Jiwon only answered Heejoon in the shortest way possible. Were you once like that? Honestly, it’s something that I didn’t realize that I did, but Heejoon has been mentioning it ever since. What was it? This one time, both our groups appeared on the same show, and Heejoon and I were seated together that day. That’s right. I wasn’t able to say anything even though he was next to me. In the music industry, they are our seniors. I was looking straight ahead for most of the time when Heejoon asked if it was hard to be the leader. – Was the camera on you? / – No. – It was a personal question. / – And? I said, “Yes.” Nice. (He’s clapping like a seal.) Heejoon could’ve found it abrasive. For the first time, Jaejin applauded you. – Why though? / – I haven’t heard of this before, but that was so cool of him. – You think it was cool? / – Because he wanted to beat H.O.T. He loves the fact that Jiwon didn’t talk to Heejoon. I feel victorious in some way. Saying just “Yes” is a victory? Did your agency tell you not to talk to H.O.T? – I doubt it. / – It wasn’t like that, but SECHSKIES was brought together – to bring H.O.T down. / – That’s right. – Our boss… / – Yes, at the agency. So how do I put this… You each had a member to take on. – A target? / – Exactly. I guess you could call it that. In other words, we considered them as role models too. – Because of my role… / – So Heejoon. We’re both leaders, and we rap and sing too. I probably had my eye on him for a long time. – Suwon, what about you? / – I… – Who… / – I was like a substitute. – A substitute? / – They only had five members and we had one more. – So like a sixth man. / – I’d come forward – when one needed backup. / – Due to his image, – he’s a lot like Tony. / – That’s right. I never thought that way, but Tony told me how he considered me as his rival. – He once said so. / – Really? Tony is a bad actor too. – Sorry? / – He’s a terrible actor. Yes, we know. And that makes you his rival? According to Jiwon, one of you took the rivalry too far. Woohyuk was the main dancer in H.O.T. Let’s say that we chose Jaejin to take on Woohyuk as our dancer. They only have five members which means we have one extra. That would be Jaeduck. We wanted to crush him 2 to 1. With Jaejin and Jaeduck? – Yes, 2 to 1. / – That could work. However, one would take it too far. He couldn’t play it cool. Who exactly? – Jaeduck. / – Him. – What would he do? / – As you know, special effects are used when singers perform on stage. – Right. / – Of course. You could die if you got caught in one. – But he’d just walk out. / – Regardless? He stepped to the edge of the stage and flames came up right at that time. – Oh, dear. / – How dangerous. He got caught on fire once. Really? All because he wanted to beat Woohyuk? (Woohyuk, you’re going down.) If the flames kept blazing, he would’ve been completely roasted. Do you know the type that shoots flames just once? – Like this. / – So he was roasted once. When he came back to us, he smelled like chicken manure. Really? – So this… / – The foul smell of chicken. Think of burned hair. You know how protein smells when burned. Hold on. – Shouldn’t you… / – His hair has burned too. You should’ve asked if he was all right first. It happened so fast that we didn’t know. He told us later on. Why did you do that? – Well… / – You could’ve been injured. My hair was burned, and so were some of my eyelashes. My clothes were burned and also my skin. I suffered second-degree burns. – Goodness. / – It could’ve been worse then. It all happened because he was too eager. Woohyuk never did moves that could injure him. Actually, from what I recall, he also wanted to show off. Woohyuk once… – After a baby freeze… / – Yes, he added something. He tried to do a flip. – He couldn’t land it. / – He got stuck like so. – He wasn’t able to get up. / – He failed the move. (Jaeduck threw himself on the dance floor.) (Woohyuk started off with subtle moves.) (He urgently added a flip but…) (Thud!) – He failed the move. / – He was stuck. Heejoon had to help him back up. But that… So who won the crazy dance-off? In my opinion, I believe we won. – Our individual talents… / – I’d rather not talk about this anymore. The members of H.O.T never talk about us like this. – They don’t even care? / – It’s just pathetic. – We’re the only ones who talk about this. / – Right. Woohyuk might not even remember that. People never ask the members of H.O.T this. – Just us. / – Yes, just us. It’s probably because you’re more active as a group. – Right. / – Even now, they rarely mention us. They didn’t even consider us rivals. They don’t appear on talk shows. Now that you mention it… Are we that easy to you? I’ll tell Heejoon to mention it on his radio show. – I’m sure they talk about you too. / – Right. I’m proud of our leader. So Myunghoon, objectively speaking… Myunghoon seems to pop up from time to time. – It’s better this way. / – Right. You believe that SECHSKIES was too conscious of H.O.T. Is that what you thought of them? Well, it’s only my opinion, – but it shows. / – I see. Just think about the backdown dance move. My gosh, that move. That move completely shocked me. That move was made just to beat H.O.T. The move involves you dropping straight down. It’s a very dangerous move. In my opinion, it was random. You couldn’t be more wrong about that. – You’re so wrong. / – Really? They came up with that move when they were a part of a dance team called Quicksilver before H.O.T even debuted. I didn’t know because I only saw it on TV. You were criticized seconds after saying that. I didn’t know about the dance team… You must feel incredibly lonely today. – Busan… / – Can’t you bring No Yoomin over? He’s all alone today. I’m better off without Yoomin. – Did you hear that? / – Exactly. He says he’s better off without Yoomin. As someone who is a good dancer himself and loves the art, – you thought it was too much. / – Exactly. Haven’t you tried it before? – It’s too dangerous. / – You haven’t? It sheds years off your lifespan. – Is it that dangerous? / – If you make a mistake, – you could hurt yourself. / – He looks serious. There’s a way to do that move. It’s like breaking your fall in martial arts. You can’t drop in a straight line. You must draw a curve like so. – So that’s how it’s done. / – I see. My friend dropped straight down and… – It’ll be like falling from high ground. / – Right. Jaeduck, I hear network regulations were torture for you. Well, if you think back about the old days, no one was able to dye their hair. – Right. / – Back then, there were those regulations. – We couldn’t wear earrings. / – Exactly. We weren’t allowed provocative dance moves either. There were regulations regarding choreography too. What I remember the most was one that prohibited me from speaking in a dialect on the radio. – What? / – What? – No way. / – This is news to me. We couldn’t believe it either. They didn’t want me instigating regionalism. It’s why I couldn’t say anything. Don’t be ridiculous. His memory seems a little bit off. It makes sense though. I was active around that time too, remember? I was told to keep our knees off the ground. (Singers should keep their knees off the ground?) Off where? – Your knees? / – They shouldn’t touch – the ground when dancing. / – Why not? (I was told to keep our knees off the ground.) (Why?) For your safety and protection? Because it seemed too aggressive. – Visually? / – Because it seemed violent. – Really? / – So I think the dialect regulation could be true. – That’s new to me too. / – It’s true. In the beginning, we weren’t able to dance at all. – What? / – From what I can gather… Are you sure you know what “regulations” mean? – Sorry? / – Do you know what it means? How much of what you’re saying today is true? You’re being too creative. Can you stick to the truth? Maybe he has a friend named Kim Regulation. Are you sure you know what it means? Myunghoon is here by himself today, so it’s hard to verify… From what I recall, NRG used to end their song in this pose. – What? / – You’re being ridiculous. After our backflip, we did this. After our backflip, we did this. – Was this allowed? / – Your knee is touching. – Your knee is on the ground. / – Look. We were asked not to do it. – It was suggested? / – It wasn’t banned. – You were asked not to do it? / – That’s right. To leave your knees off the ground? We weren’t told it wasn’t allowed. – But refrain from / – Due to the state of affairs, we were asked not to do it. – The state of affairs? / – What? How is that a reason for anything? (Due to the state of affairs?) (I remember now!) TV music shows were canceled. There was a time when dance music was banned. – For a while. / – When? (Dance music was banned?) (1997, Republic of Korea) (Bankruptcy was declared upon the nation.) (TV networks took action.) (Actual news footage from back in the day) (Drama series and variety shows to be restructured) (TV shows that targeted teens were canceled.) (“KBS Top 10 Songs” was canceled after 18 years.) When the nation was in despair… During the IMF crisis. We weren’t able to perform songs that were bright or upbeat. You couldn’t sing “I Can Do It” during the IMF crisis. So in a way… See? I was telling the truth! – But you mentioned your knees. / – Because you talked about certain dance moves being banned, we all thought that you meant dancing was banned. NRG debuted on October 28, 1997. What year? It’s why I remember it clearly. The moment we debuted, we almost immediately rose to stardom, but the crisis happened. Our song became the first place candidate, but the show was canceled. So my teammates and I… This seems believable to me. For us, it was as if someone put a damper – on our career. / – Back then, – the whole nation was in despair. / – That’s right. – Right. / – Singers were asked not to dance. I think I remember that too. There was a time when dance music was banned. – All right then. / – I heard that there’s something Suwon would love to do. It’s performing at the legendary Dream Concert. (Performing at the Dream Concert) It briefly came up when I had drinks with the members of H.O.T. They said that it’d be fun to perform with us too. It used to take place at Jamsil Olympic Stadium. – You see… / – The colored balloons. Many fans came to cheer you with their colored balloons. Many popular artists came together to perform what was known to be a dream. – The ending was the most important. / – That’s right. Who should be the last one to perform? Back then, I guess we all wanted to perform last. These days though, it’s not a priority. What if you’re to perform again? If so… I’d rather perform early and go home. You’d rather go home quickly? – Then… / – You choose the opening act? – What about you? / – I prefer the opening act too. – Why? / – Why? I’d rather go home quickly too. Also, H.O.T is our senior in the music industry. – Actually… / – What about NRG? – Us? / – You and TAESAJA. We were the opening act in a lot of cases. The Dream Concert was split into two parts. SECHSKIES would perform at the end of Part One while H.O.T performed at the end of Part Two. No one could ever change that. Those two are fixed before anyone else. No one can change that. It wouldn’t be ideal to perform right before SECHSKIES. That’s right, it’s not ideal. I guess we all figured that we had our own roles to play at those concerts. As you know, since SECHSKIES has been active for so long… We’ve been talking about their dark pasts, but there are more. Up until now, it was about what they said. Yes, individual remarks. We have some photos to show you. Let’s check their dark pasts then. Here’s the first one. Unlike other K-pop idols at that time, you guys took photos that showed off your skin. Let’s take a look. – I was quite surprised. / – Here’s the first one. Here you are exposing your skin. – Was this a physical examination? / – What is this? (Was this a physical examination?) – A physical examination? / – What is this? Weren’t you advertising underwear? Who’d wear that to a physical examination? (You’d be the most popular soldier to join.) It was for a magazine. – A magazine? / – A spread? There were many magazines back in the day. Yes, like “Photo Music”. Let’s take a look at this. Suwon, what is this? – I mean… / – What was this for? What is this? It was for a magazine. – This was in a magazine? / – Yes, it was published. – A magazine for teens? / – Yes. This is a dark past for us. – We were called pretty boys. / – I’m curious as to what the editor that planned this is doing right now. I’m sure he or she was just following orders. – Back then… / – I’d like for us to meet. I’m sure it was trending at that time. Jiwon’s photo is even worse. I know! We all took photos in this way. – Yes, us all. / – Why did you put on a tie? I didn’t understand the concept at all. The colors match though. I was furious at the time. – Back then? / – Were you angry? I believe this was after we released our first album. – Right. / – Back then, we were young and naive, so we did what was asked of us. We find this funny now, so our agency took these and created characters out of them. – These naked photos? / – Yes, into cute stickers. – Think of cartoons. / – You seem furious here. I probably cried. I see. – I was furious. / – Gosh, look at Jaejin. You’re all wearing ties. At least the nipples were concealed. You look exactly like a young Jackie Chan. Jackie Chan! – Seriously. / – Goodness. – Next up… / – My anger is back. It’s the decadence style. Right, and I prepared the photos. – Okay, let’s take a look. / – Let’s have a look. This sort of style was trendy back then. “Mathematics, social studies, national language…” – Didn’t you wear this for “School Anthem”? / – Yes. – What’s this? / – You lead the trend. – This style is trending abroad. / – And your stylist thought you won? (The style that gave their stylist a victory?) Our lead single was “School Anthem”. – Yes, “School Anthem”. / – “School Anthem”! “Pi” is written here too. There are math formulas that I didn’t even learn in school. Are we supposed to solve these equations? You’d only be seen wearing this – on stage. / – We would never wear them. And H.O.T thought you had won too? – That’s right. / – My gosh. You’re absolutely right. (H.O.T suffers a questionable loss.) The next dark past is your poor acting. – Let’s take a look. / – Sure. Hey, Jaeduck! (Jiwon realized that Jaeduck’s soul) (had gone into his sister’s body.) (Courtesy of SBS) It really is you. So? It really is you. (The worst delivery ever!) What’s with that gaze? What on earth was that? It’s the worst. Stop torturing your sister now. It turns out that Suwon is an amazing actor. He’s just like Choi Minsik. What gives you the right? Because I like your sister. I mean it. You sound like a robot. You must be acting this way because she showed you some affection too, but don’t kid yourself. I won’t let someone like you date my sister. So? Is that way you’re messing with her life? Did you hear that tone? – If you care… / – What a stellar performance. The sweet and kind student became a troublemaker overnight. Her grades have plummeted – and her friends think / – You memorized – she’s crazy. / – all of that? (You memorized all of that?) It seems like Suwon wasn’t the first robot. Were you reading lines from a book? You’re ruining your sister’s life. (He provoked Jaeduck’s soul.) – She’s going to punch him. / – He should be punched. She punched him! He should be punched. (She even did a wind-up.) Couldn’t she have just slapped him? It was a punch instead of a slap. Why are you smiling though? (Just leave your sister alone!) Just leave your sister alone! I barely delivered my lines. Who is he supposed to leave alone? – Were you eating ice cubes? / – My delivery is awful. I’ve never seen acting as bad as that before. (The worst acting ever) I can’t believe you got better after that. Suwon, what did you think? Compared to that, my acting was stellar. Unbelievable. He was a robot too. His shoulders were frozen in place. (Robot 1, Robot 2) Suwon’s bad acting even gave birth to emojis. Let’s see. (A variety of emotions) The expressions are the same for different emotions. (A kissing scene) – The one for the kissing scene… / – What’s that? Lover boy! His expression changes when there’s a kiss. That’s hilarious. I’d love to meet whoever made that. – Gosh. / – Happy, doubtful… They are all the same. You look like a hedgehog with that hair. Your father who once recommended an acting career for you… Your father thought you should go into acting. – Right. / – After seeing your acting, he was left speechless. It’s hilarious even to this day. My father hoped that I’d start an acting career. I see. And? My name was topped the real-time keyword ranking and “awful acting” followed in second place. Due to his age, he’s not good with the Internet, – but he heard the news from my fans. / – Right. He never once mentioned my acting career again. During that time, it felt awkward to be around my father. Didn’t he love it when you went – viral afterward? / – Exactly. – That propelled your career. / – You went viral. – That’s right. / – I was lucky to have something good come out of it. Was the expression, “awful acting”, created – because of you? / – No, that’s not true. There were some actors… – There were. / – other than me… who struggled in acting. But you were the most famous… Are you putting yourself on par with those actors? – No. I am… / – He’s at a higher level. – I’m not a professional actor. / – What? Haven’t you seen my acting performance? – I was the first. / – My goodness. – He’s right. / – I was so surprised. The concept of awful acting originates from me. I thought he had two ice cubes in his mouth. – Being the first is good. / – Absolutely. SECHSKIES holds a lot of Korea’s first records. – Korea’s first awful acting? / – Exactly. His acting was unbelievably awful. He’s the team leader for a reason. It was utterly awful. – He was the first to do that. / – Of course. After SECHSKIES broke up, Jaejin released – “Double J” as a solo artist. / – That’s right. We’ll show you the footage of his embarrassing moment. – It’s hilarious. / – Shall we watch it? – “Double J”. / – It’s so funny. (“Go Back” by Lee Jaejin) “Go Back”. His ranking went down five places. (Hitting the mic) (Embarrassed) What should he do? Didn’t he drop his mic again? Didn’t the dancer hit it again? At least he caught the mic. – No, he dropped it. / – He picked it up. – He must’ve been taken aback. / – Exactly. Let’s watch it again. – Can we watch it again? / – Just one more time. – Watch it again? / – He just started singing. (“Go Back” by Lee Jaejin) His ranking went down five places. The song title is “Go Back”, you know. (Flustered) He was singing live. – I was singing live. / – Oh, no, Jaejin. – That’s a relief. / – My goodness. My goodness. I watched that video almost 100 times, – It’s still funny. / – but it still makes me laugh. Where did you get your hair done? That hairstyle was popular back then. From “Winter Sonata”. Bae Yongjoon’s hairstyle. – Many stars had that hairstyle. / – Back then… – So did Jaeseok. / – I had that hairstyle too. – The wind-blown hair. / – That’s right. Please tell us how it happened. It was my last performance of that song. – By the Taehwa River in Ulsan. / – Taehwa River? My backup dancer hit my arm as you just saw, and I dropped my mic because of that. I couldn’t see clearly because I was wearing sunglasses. But then my mic fell down. In only a few seconds, I thought of how I should pick up the mic and from which part I should start singing again – after I picked up the mic. / – Exactly. Oh, no. Also, I couldn’t remember the choreography for that part either. If you listen to it closely, when the mic falls on the floor, – you can hear a thump. / – It’s hilarious. Can we watch it one more time? (“Go Back” by Lee Jaejin) (Focus on the sound this time.) (Thud) We’ve watched a video of Jaejin. We also prepared a video of Myunghoon when he was younger. – Shall we take a look? / – Okay. Is this when he was a backup dancer? I’m the one in white in the middle. – It’s Solid’s song. / – Yes. Is the one with blonde hair, Myunghoon? – No, the one in the middle. / – The white hat? – I’m wearing a beret. / – I see. – The beret? / – Yes. (He shows off his dance skills.) – There he is. / – Yes. We made the choreography by ourselves too. There he is. I can recognize him. (Myunghoon made the choreography himself.) He considers himself as 1 of the top 5 dancers for a reason. – He was a great dancer. / – He’s amazing. – The audience went crazy. / – He’s dancing well. You kneeled down. Yes, I did. It was before then. – You kneeled down back then. / – Back then… Did you get the opportunity to make your debut because you stood out? That’s right. Back then, – there were rumors about me. / – He’s amazing. People wondered if I was an overseas Korean. You also had an image of a pretty boy. Yes. And my dance was exciting and neat. Did you hear all the rumors about you? – Yes, I did. / – Did your friends spread the rumor? – No, they didn’t. / – What was your dance team’s name? We didn’t have a name. How I joined the dance team… – Don’t stutter. / – Stop talking. – Are you interrogating him? / – Don’t answer all of his questions. – All right. / – Anyway… – However, I’m a bit flustered / – Okay. – because it’s time to wrap up. / – Already? Since we’ve been talking about your old memories for over 20 years, I hoped we could hear a heartwarming story at the end. But we have to wrap up without hearing such stories. We tried to lead you to do so, but failed. – But I like it this way more. / – Do you? – It’s because we’re close. / – It’s nice. If we were on bad terms… You wouldn’t have come here. Exactly. We wouldn’t have talked about the old days. – That’s true. / – You have a point. We’ll be looking forward to seeing you often on TV. – Even Jaeseok is taken aback. / – I am taken aback. We’ve never had zero heartwarming story. Since we have to wrap up now, – I’m taken aback. / – Is it over already? Today, we had our We Only Work Together special with the four members of SECHSKIES. How about you say cheerful words to each other? Okay. Since we haven’t released an album for a while, we thought of trying new things to keep up with the trends. However, we couldn’t give up our own music style that we had in the past. If we reinterpret the current trends in our own style, – it’d suit the newtro trend. / – Of course. Therefore, our new song “ALL FOR YOU” can make people around our age feel happy. – “ALL FOR YOU”? / – Yes. – Myunghoon, go ahead. / – Okay. Thank you for inviting me. Are you satisfied? I am fully satisfied. It’s been an honor. Won’t NRG release a new song? No. Won’t NRG release a new song? No. – What was that? / – I don’t think we will. – Out of all the answers / – Maybe as a solo artist. you said today, it was the clearest one. (The clearest answer he said) It was a straightforward answer. – Good job. / – Thanks to you all, we had a great time too. We will be back next week. – Thank you. / – Thank you.