Happy Together I 해피투게더 EP.604 Part.1 [ENG/2019.09.12]On January 19, 2020 by Raul Dinwiddie
The magical Thursday night with top stars. – Happy Together! / – Happy Together! (Is Saeho here as a member of ChoNam Zone?) – Are you here as a singer today? / – Yes. I wanted to work with the mindset I had when I was a newcomer known as Cabbage. – I see. / – The mindset of a newcomer. – Oh, I see. / – Yes. – Your outfit reminds me… / – As a matter of fact… The college comedy contest in 1991. I’m wearing similar glasses to the ones I wore. Heesuk and I made our debut in the same year, right? You looked arrogant with your hands in your pockets. You were wearing these glasses and picking your ear. – I was picking my ear. / – “I came in third?” We dressed this way to renew our mindsets. Yoonhee, tell us about your outfit. I debuted in the music video of Lee Sooyoung’s “I Believe.” – Oh, right. / – I was wearing a black school uniform. – I remember that. / – I got goosebumps. – I was your huge fan. / – What about you, Hyunmoo? I made a debut as an announcer. I said I would become the Sohn Sukhee of KBS, but the first thing I did was imitate a comedy skit. And as I hosted many variety shows, I lost my original intention. We’re all wearing outfits that remind us of the mindsets we had when we were newcomers. Today, we’re here with the Laughter Hunters who always give Koreans a good laugh. It’s “How to Be Funny Special.” We’ll introduce today’s guests one by one. He’s the anchor of his junior comedians. He’s absolutely generous and kind to his junior comedians. Mother Teresa of comedians, Nam Heesuk! Nam Heesuk! (He pays respect to Heesuk.) Heesuk pulls him and Jaeseok pushes him. – ♪ I’m in pain ♪ / – ♪ I’m in pain ♪ He’s like a child who breaks his parents’ hearts. He’s still a rising star. Nam Changhee! Hello. It’s nice to meet you all. ♪ I’m in pain ♪ He lives as if there is no tomorrow. With his unfiltered jokes and feisty comments, he took over the comedy industry. He’s my friend, Lee Jinho! (Lee Jinho) It seems to me that whenever Saeho’s close friends or his junior comedians are invited, – he tends to try too hard to do well. / – I do a bit. – I think / – He overdid it a bit. – he’s very nervous. / – Me? – Yes. / – No, I’m not nervous. – Indeed. / – He had only two sentences, but he checked his script four times. (He checked it 4 times to read only 2 sentences.) – Just to be sure. / – Our guests Our guests are getting started now. I have a feeling that today’s episode will be another Cho Saeho special. – I’m sweating already. / – Hey. – Saeho, you should stay alert. / – I am staying alert. He mesmerized all Koreans with his popular phrase, “Cheesy, cheesy.” He’s cheesier than anyone else. The creator of dirty, sexy comedy, the born-to-be comedian, Lee Sanghun! Lee Sanghun! She’s enjoying her honeymoon phase right now. “You must be surprised to see my belly.” The romantic and lovely comedienne, Lee Suji! – Lee Suji! / – Hello, everyone! They’re all working with the same agency as Saeho. – That’s right. / – Yes. In the preliminary interview, every one of them said, “Whatever I do, I’ll make sure to take Saeho down.” Saeho will be taken down again. They should talk about themselves. Why would they talk about me? Saeho, are you ready for this? After my junior comedians came last time, I became completely understanding and big-hearted. Back then, I was a little narrow-minded. You actually went into a sulk. (He got seriously upset.) Admit it. You do that all the time. (I’m too upset to go on with the shoot.) (The birth of Boy King) How could you get upset on a variety show? – It was a little disappointing. / – I know, but today, please forget how I used to be. I wouldn’t mind even if they make up – stories about me. / – That’s good. – Are you serious? / – In fact, I heard Heesuk said the other guests are his favorite junior comedians. – How do you feel? / – It’s quite weird. I’m so happy to be on Happy Together after a long time. Also, Jaeseok and I made our debut in the same year. Yes. Through the comedy contest. I’m actually trying to refrain myself from being too comfortable. He’s the anchor of Saeho and Changhee. So people call you “ChoNam Father.” – Cho and Nam’s father. / – It sounds a bit weird. – “ChoNam Father”? / – That’s right. – ChoNam Father. / – He deserves the nickname. He really is like our father. – Really? I see. / – Yes. If I tell you about Heesuk… Although we have our biological parents, but Heesuk is the person who raised us as comedians. – That’s amazing. / – Heesuk is? He considers us his own children he had from his heart, and he raised us as our father, ChoNam Father. We don’t ask our own parents for permission to travel overseas, but we ask for Heesuk’s. (ChoNam Father’s permission is necessary.) You ask for his permission to go on a trip? He’s like our personal immigration officer. – We need his permission to leave. / – To go overseas? “Immigration officer”? Just like how we go through immigration. Is it because you want to join them? I know I don’t have to feel this way, but I still worry about them when they travel abroad or go somewhere far. I’m worried something bad might happen to them. But they’re almost 40 years old now. – I know it’s not my job. / – Why would worry so much? It’s what the Korean consulate or embassy should do. What’s funny is that he also tells us when he travels overseas. – You guys tell each other. / – Yes. I heard that Heesuk is grateful toward Jaeseok. – Me? / – Of course. When I first met Jaeseok, – he was 20 and I was 21. / – That’s right. I was living in a small house – in Huam-dong. / – He rented a room. Later, I moved to another house. It was a tiny studio apartment. I remember that. The alley was so narrow, so only a handcart could pass. Jaeseok came to help me move. He pulled the handcart and moved my belongings. I was so grateful about that. Back then, I didn’t even work out. I was so weak. – He was so skinny. / – I didn’t expect that much work. – I was really grateful. / – It took us the whole day. His little sister, Jihee, also came to help him. So the three of us worked together. I was very grateful. He’s such a good and kind-hearted person. I was always grateful. That’s not true. We relied on each other back then. Heesuk adored me and helped me a lot, so I was happy to help him. It’s normal for friends to each other. Were you wearing those glasses when you helped him? Yes, I was. – I bet you kept pushing them up. / – I wore these. He was wearing those glasses. Heesuk pulled the handcart and I pushed it. I remember us moving the stuff using a handcart. I was Saeho’s roommate, – and I moved out one day. / – I see. But he wasn’t there on my moving day. – That’s right. / – Why didn’t you help me? – I had a shoot that day. / – I see. – Changhee… / – You took selfies. (He attacks Saeho all of a sudden.) – He kept / – Are you getting started? taking pictures at a 45° angle. – I planned to take selfies in Yeouido. / – It’s begun. Are you playing along with the comment? Yes. I’ll be cool with anything. You looked upset for a moment. I didn’t know we would see him again this soon. He came on our show not long ago, and he’s back. He’s like a child to Heesuk who breaks his heart. ♪ I’m in pain ♪ Nam Changhee is also here. (Heesuk and Jaeseok’s soft spot, Nam Changhee) – He doesn’t break my heart. / – “I’m in pain.” (“Changhee Will Be Lucky This Year”) He became a radio DJ two weeks after he came here. I really enjoyed his radio show. I guess the fortuneteller was right. – Indeed. / – It’s great news. – It’s great. / – I have even better news. His contract was almost over, but he extended it. – That’s right. / – He extended his contract. – I got a six-month contract. / – That’s right. But as my radio show gained a lot of love, – I renewed my contract. / – You must feel grateful. – Thank you, listeners. / – You should thank your fans. I heard Jaeseok called you when you became a DJ. Yes, he did. I’m grateful about that too. He heard the news somewhere and called me right away. He said, “Changhee, I’ve known you for 15 years.” “I congratulated you many times before,” “but this comes from the bottom of my heart.” It was the first time ever. He said he didn’t mean it when he congratulated me. “From the bottom of my heart.” I meant it this time. He said it when he called me. He also said that he would be on my show or a phone interview if I wanted. He told me to call him anytime. – Yes, I said that. / – He said it to me. Normally, phone interviews – last around five minutes. / – That’s right. But my interview lasted over 30 minutes. – On a radio show? / – Our staff worked night and day for three days to write the script. I was so surprised. – For the interview. / – They took advantage of you. I was so surprised. – It’s used as an advertisement. / – That’s right. We asked if he listened to our radio show, and he said he does from time to time. So we edited that comment to make an advertisement of our show. And we still use it. “Jaeseok listens to our show from time to time.” “‘Yoon Jeongsu and Nam Changhee’s Mr. Radio’.” Let me tune the radio first. (This is the actual radio advertisement.) (I listen to your show from time to time.) (This is the radio show that Yu Jaeseok listens to.) (Jaeseok listens to this show from time to time.) (Please listen to our show from time to time.) – That was unbelievable. / – Right. You still listen to our show from time to time, right? – Yes, from time to time. / – All right. That’ll do. There’s more good news about Changhee. He’s also a singer. He’s a member of ChoNam Zone. ChoNam Zone appeared on “Music Bank” recently. How did people react? The response was explosive. The atmosphere in the studio… When the singers record their performances, – their fans come to the studio. / – That’s right. – The staff prepares seats for them. / – For the fans. When we went to record our performance, the staff told Changhee, “Your fans can come in now if they’re here.” We were taken aback. “The seats are ready, so let them in now.” But we didn’t have fans there, so we performed – for our stylist and managers. / – There were three. But many people were surprised when they saw us on TV. After the show aired, many people showed an explosive response. – I see. / – Many news articles about us came out as well. So we let more people know about ChoNam Zone. I read some online comments. Someone described you guys as “Supply without demand.” (Supply without demand) (He laughs louder than the others.) – Did you write that? / – No. I didn’t even watch it. – You didn’t watch it? / – No, I didn’t. He didn’t even watch it. – You need to know to review it. / – As I always say, so many comments are witty. That’s an impressive comment. It’s such an impactful comment with only three words. However, Changhee said that he wasn’t satisfied – because of Saeho. / – Why? Well, he was just… He was too much. – I get it. / – He expressed emotions excessively. – He’s old-fashioned. / – His excessive expressions and his face that didn’t suit the decoration – of the stage. / – His singing technique? Confetti fell on the stage while we were singing in harmony. It goes… ♪ It’s too late to regret ♪ He got confetti pieces all over his face, which made it hard for me to focus. The viewers also said that watching him like that made them feel uncomfortable. – Is that so? / – Yes. I watched a short clip. Saeho got too emotional where he shouldn’t. As he couldn’t make tears fall, he looked up at the lighting. (Saeho tried to make tears fall.) – Why did you do that? / – Saeho. I looked up at the lighting. I thought I should make tears fall – since it’s a sad song. / – It was disappointing. There are many online comments that request – Changhee’s solo performance. / – Many people did. I heard many people want it. Many people have been messaging me – on social media as well. / – I see. There was a memorable message among them. What is it? “Changhee, can’t you post a video” “where you sing ‘Where Are You Now’ alone?” “I really want to hear your solo version. Please.” I got a lot of messages like this. – There’s another one. / – However, this person added, “If it might cause any trouble between you and Saeho,” “can’t you sing each other’s part, at least?” “I will edit your parts and put them together.” – You can make a complete song. / – That’s right. – You see… / – That person must’ve hated it. This person has a kind heart. – I don’t know who this is, but… / – Indeed. – He or she is considerate of them. / – Exactly. – This person is kind. / – This person cares about the relationship between the two of them as well. Sanghun, did you watch their performance? I didn’t watch it because I wanted to. I had no choice. It was uploaded in our group chat. – Really? / – I clicked the button. Oh, Heesuk uploaded the video. Heesuk uploaded it. – It was a full performance video. / – That’s right. – People usually upload a link. / – Yes. But he made a video filming his TV screen. – He’s so old-fashioned. / – My goodness. – Like our fathers. / – Exactly. You don’t know how to find a link? – Of course, I don’t. / – You filmed your TV screen? He held his phone for four minutes despite his shoulder problem. He filmed it while the show was on. (Oh, my! I should film this.) – He’s so affectionate for them. / – He’s our father. – He thinks of us his own children. / – He does. – He’s your father. / – He cares about us. But I enjoyed their performance more than I expected. I watched it with my wife. She loved Changhee’s voice. – He does. / – Everyone compliments Changhee. He has a voice that women like. You see, Saeho is pretending to be okay, but he’s stressed out because of it. – Seriously? / – It’s because Jinho – imitates us all the time. / – Right. He imitates both me and Changhee. – How? / – Jinho, show us. – Changhee has a thin voice. / – That’s true. (Changhee with a thin voice) (Saeho with a raspy voice) (Is this impersonation or mockery?) Saeho’s voice stands out too much. – It doesn’t sound natural. / – He makes this noise. (He joins in to tease Saeho.) – I really hate watching him sing. / – I know. – Hey. / – Stop! He’s going to be upset! Hang on a second. Saeho finally started to feel it. What do you mean? – Saeho has an old habit. / – What is it? – I’ve known him for a long time. / – Tell us. When he’s being cornered, he moves his fingers like this. – When he gets more anxious, / – What does he do? you can hear him make a noise like this. (Groaning) That’s right. He groans without letting others know. (This is how he sounds when he groans.) When he has something to say… He does that all the time on Happy Together. – Check the video. I didn’t. / – He wants to check. (Groaning) (He moves his fingers anxiously.) (Look at him.) (He knows Saeho so well.) – He lied. / – Our guests know Saeho so well. – That will make a good meme. / – Why did you do that – when they were talking? / – He can’t get back. I was trying to figure out how I should react. You’ll be beaten up today. I’ve been behaving well, right? Aren’t you trying hard not to go into a sulk? That’s ridiculous. But your eyes already turned red. It’s emotionally hard for me. Changhee is famous as Jaeseok’s favorite junior comedian, – whereas Jinho is Heesuk’s favorite. / – Is he? He has strange charms. Jinho doesn’t get intimidated. He is confident no matter where he is. – That’s impressive. / – That’s why he is a comedian that A-list celebrities love. He doesn’t go, “Hello, sir!” He always does this. That’s exactly what he does. Let’s say someone asks him, “Have you had a meal?” Have you had a meal? Yes. He does this. People love it. I see. Do you get intimidated on the inside? I do get intimidated on the inside at times. Even if I fail to make people laugh through a skit or a show, I think to myself, “I found it funny.” – That’s impressive. / – “I found it funny.” You guys are putting it nicely for him. In a sense, he is very self-centered. (He is very self-centered.) – In any case, / – One day, he played Gung Ye. – I am impressed. / – He played Gung Ye, – but it wasn’t funny at all. / – Really? After the skit, he scolded the audience. What did he say? “Look at this. No one is laughing.” I tell the audience, “Whose loss do you think it’d be if you don’t laugh?” “I don’t care.” (It would be your loss.) “Whose loss do you think it would be?” He is like that. “You came all the way here.” Jinho, you prepared a failproof talent for today. – Really? / – Yes. I have recently visited a few variety shows and showed my cicada impression. – It’s getting me a lot of calls / – Really? and messages. People say that every cicada reminds them of me now. I was reminded of you when I heard the cicadas sing. – Please let us hear it. / – It’s addictive. I will teach you my cicada impression. We would love to learn it. – People think / – My goodness. – cicadas sing like this. / – That’s right. However, there usually isn’t a single cicada on a tree. There are multiple cicadas. The sound goes like this at first. (Make the wind sound as if many cicadas are singing.) – Right. / – That’s right. Then this happens when you catch one cicada. (Imitate the sound a cicada makes when it’s caught.) (Chirring) (Letting go) (Chirring) That’s right. (Chirring) (He sounds the same.) (The human cicada) Just make this sound. (Just make this sound.) This is all you need to do. Would you like to give it a try? (He tries.) No. It sounds like “It’s” at first. (It beeps.) It sounds like “It’s.” If you let it go… (Let it go and make the wind sound.) You sound similar. There could be a cicada that sounds like Cho Yongpil. It’s bounce, bounce, bounce. – He is good. / – It’s bounce, bounce, bounce. (A cicada that sounds like Cho Yongpil) My heart bounces. I am scared you will hear it. That’s ridiculous. – That’s ridiculous. / – I find it funny. – He finds it funny. / – That’s ridiculous. I heard that Saeho bought Jinho an outfit for his visit to Happy Together. – Really? / – It’s nothing to talk about. – My goodness. / – For goodness’ sake! I am so sick of him. It was Saeho’s birthday recently. – That’s right. / – I went to the sauna with him. Then Saeho said we should go shopping. I thought, “Should I buy him a birthday present?” He suddenly asked me to pick something. When I did, he paid for it. He bought it for me. (Why did he pay for it?) I wondered why he bought it for me on his birthday. I think he knew that I would visit Happy Together. That must be the case. “Let’s go shopping together.” – You are the worst. / – You know, I will share only the facts. Since it was my birthday, I told him that he should buy me clothes. He and I are very close. He said, “You should be giving on your birthday.” “Why should I buy you clothes?” I offered to buy him a T-shirt. – You became serious again. / – You sound angry. This is nothing to get angry about. You should smile. (He suddenly shows a fake smile.) – You looked so serious. / – I know. – I bought him something. / – You’re doing it again. Are you wearing the outfit he bought you? No, I am not. What he bought me looks shabbier. (What he bought me looks shabbier.) I can’t wear it on TV. – You can’t wear it on TV. / – That means it wasn’t intentional. – It wasn’t intentional. / – It wasn’t intentional. I am a bit embarrassed since it wasn’t expensive enough to warrant a story of good deed. – It wasn’t expensive enough. I see. / – Right. Jinho, there is a rumor that you live – in an expensive apartment. / – Have you earned a lot? I have my reasons. I went to the 63 Building for a field trip when I was in elementary school. I saw apartments next to the building at the age of 20 and thought, “I wonder who lives there.” “I am jealous that they have an apartment in Seoul.” In the year I turned 30, I had to move. I wanted to give myself a present, so I took out loans to move into that apartment. I live somewhere else now. I heard that the monthly rent is 2,500 dollars. I added more money to the security deposit later on – and lessened the amount. / – I see. At first, it was 2,500 dollars. For how many years did you live there? I lived there for about three years. – Still… / – You lived there for many years. Now, I live in Hyangdong that is next to Sangam. The apartment is about one-fourth the size of the previous one. I am really happy. “Why did I live there when I can be this happy?” The previous apartment was so big. – One day, I didn’t want to go home. / – Why not? – I never fell in love with it. / – I know why. It was too spacious. I only used one-fourth of the space. There was a room you didn’t use once in three years. – Yes! / – There was such a room. I couldn’t open that room. Me neither. I felt like I would find a ghost in there. – I know what you mean. / – Seriously. While it was a nice apartment, it didn’t suit me. I had insomnia while I lived there. – I never slept peacefully. / – I see. I never fell in love with the place. I should have moved right away, but I held on to it. I found happiness elsewhere now. In my 20s, I spent whatever I earned. That way… – “More jobs will come.” / – Yes. You were Dok2 among comedians. (Dok2 among comedians, Lee Jinho) – I get it now. / – He was Dok2 among comedians. I get what he is like now. Suji, I heard that you are the hidden card of your agency. – Really? / – One day, the director of my agency called me over. “The number one woman in this agency is” “Kim Shinyoung.” “You are number two.” He said that last year. “But there is a huge gap.” “You should catch up.” He said that. Does the director tell you that kind of thing? – Our agency is like that. / – Really? He told me the rankings. – The rankings? / – Yes. I am three levels below her. – That’s right. / – I am at the bottom. Does the director tell you that kind of thing? They are the cherished members of A9 Media. Does A9 Media pick celebrities up to the top 9? It’s top 1 to top 9. – Seriously. / – Seriously. They only tell us about the upper ranks. Let’s say Shinyoung gets an invite. We are in the same tier. “How about Suji?” The agency makes that offer. That’s the purpose. However, the gap is expanding. – Really? / – Yes. I am nowhere near her level. (Sadly, Suji is struggling.) I heard that you came with a determination to beat Shinyoung and make the most amount of money. To be honest, I didn’t join the agency because I was picked up by someone. I wanted to act. I told the agency that I want to act and do comedy, but I guess the director couldn’t work that out. I didn’t get a single job in acting. I began to get less and less work. I am talking to people today after a long hiatus. – I am serious. / – Really? I have been talking to my two Shih Tzu at home and elderly women at the sauna. It’s nice to talk to such young people. Young people! (Young people like you) I am serious. The friends I made at the sauna – are in their 70s. / – Really? We became friends by sharing the five-flavor berry tea and talking. That’s why I am so happy. Today, I will put down all my pretenses. I am as determined as Heungbu who went to Nolbu’s house to get beaten up with a rice paddle. – I see. / – That’s my determination. Suji, you are good at copying a middle-aged woman. I heard that you have tips. Every middle-aged woman… I recently made friends at the sauna. They don’t talk loudly. (The sauna friends) When you go to Gaepo-dong and Banpo-dong, there are so many tasty things at the sauna. – Don’t tell anyone. / – My goodness. – It looks familiar. / – She’s got all the details. She is incredible. In front of the Renaissance Hotel is the Suyang Sauna. It has tasty food, but don’t tell anyone. – My goodness. / – Don’t tell anyone. They have many secrets. – “Don’t tell anyone.” / – They have many secrets. Someone asked me, “You must have gotten your nails done.” “That’s right.” “I used press-on nails.” Her nails were red. I said, “How pretty! My mom got them too.” “Your mom must be young.” “I am in my 70s.” She said that. (She winked elegantly.) I said, “My mom isn’t young.” “My mom is 65 years old.” “She is young!” Seriously. – You know… / – You did a good job. I have seen such women. “Why aren’t you at work?” It was 11 a.m. “I go to work at 2 p.m.” “I am a comedienne.” “I knew I saw you somewhere!” “I have sharp eyes!” She said that. – She didn’t know before that. / – No, she didn’t. “Do you live in the neighborhood?” “Yes, but I am from Daegu.” “You are from my hometown!” “It’s nice to meet you!” I said, “But you don’t use the dialect.” “I do. I am from Daegu.” (She suddenly used the dialect.) You are so good. – You know, / – She is incredible. every middle-aged woman is unique. – They are witty. / – I know. You are so good. I wouldn’t say that the story is incredibly funny, but she made up for it with her acting skills. Sanghun is here with us as well. (The first-time visitor to Happy Together, Lee Sanghun) You have visited Happy Together before, right? – No, this is my first time. / – Really? – Yes. / – It’s his first time. Sanghun is the same age as me and Changhee. – Really? / – Yes. We are the same age. I heard that Saeho takes good care of you. He is really nice to me. – He takes good care of me. / – I see. Although we are the same age, he debuted in 2000 while I debuted in 2011. – He is a senior comedian / – There is a gap. who debuted over 10 years ago. We became friends because Saeho made an offer first. I think it’s 95 percent of friendship – and five percent of discomfort. / – I see. – That could happen. / – That’s right. – You are the same age. / – He could change his mind. (We hope they become close friends.) Sanghun, you became awkward with Changhee because of Saeho. When Saeho said that we should be friends, I repeatedly said, “But you are a senior comedian.” When we finally became friends, Changhee was drinking with us. Since he is our age, Saeho said, “You should be his friend too.” We call each other casually. If I feel 95 percent of friendship and fiver percent of discomfort toward Saeho, I feel 95 percent of discomfort and five percent of friendship toward Changhee. – You know, / – They don’t seem close. I am the type who doesn’t approach people first – to make friends. / – That’s right. I find it hard. Do you call him casually? – Yes, I do. / – Yes. But I rarely call his name because we don’t really talk. I would need to talk to him if I call his name, but we don’t have much to talk about. – We haven’t had a chance. / – That’s right. – Changhee. / – I find Changhee uncomfortable. – Really? / – Yes. He is nice and friendly, but it makes me uncomfortable. It’s easier to get close to people who cross the line a bit. Changhee is truly nice, but Saeho pretends to be nice. (Saeho pretends to be nice.) Lee Yongjin and Yang Sechan shared stories about Saeho. (This is where it all began.) That’s what he says. Why does he tell me to come and go if I am his friend? (Saeho says he supports them,) (but they say he harasses him.) Saeho, sit down. Sit down. (Boy King met his ruins.) – Let go of me! / – Sit down. I heard that he made the comedians gather around. – Yes. / – Yes. Jinho, were you asked to gather around? Yes, I was. It wasn’t anything bad. – It was February, right? / – Yes. I heard that Changhee and Sechan were at a whelk restaurant. – That’s right. / – I lived in Yeouido back then. “Jinho, come on over. We are drinking.” Upon arrival, I saw that things weren’t amicable. “I have one thing to say.” – Saeho said that. / – He was angry. In front of him, Sechan and Yongjin were hanging their heads. – Me too. / – Changhee was doing the same. Changhee was doing the same despite being his friend. I am used to getting scolded. – Is Saeho like that? / – Even when he’s his friend. I said, “I am here.” “Sit down.” So I did even though I wasn’t at the shoot. (Why did Jinho get scolded?) Saeho told us, “It’s okay to attack me on the show,” “but somebody might not like it.” “It’s not a good thing.” – He’s being serious. / – Yes. He kept talking about “Somebody.” – Who is that “Somebody”? / – Who is that “Somebody”? – “Somebody.” / – Who is that “Somebody”? – Who is it? / – ♪ It’s me ♪ ♪ It’s me ♪ Changhee, please tell us how you felt. Why did you scold him when he is your friend? – I didn’t scold him. / – Changhee isn’t his friend. – I will show you a photo. / – Okay. We took a photo with that concept. I pretended to be angry and Jinho took a photo. Changhee, Sechan, and Yongjin stood in front of me looking daunted. Saeho isn’t the type to get angry very easily. It was the first time I saw him so angry about a shoot. – I see. / – Yongjin likes to drink, but he quit drinking that day. I guess he didn’t want to drink with Saeho. That’s the only explanation. You made him stop drinking. “I won’t drink from now on.” Sechan and I talked about the shoot. Sechan said it was the hardest shoot he has ever had. Every time he tried to tell a story, Saeho complained from the start. “Gosh. Go ahead.” (He grimaced and complained.) Sechan was so flustered. – Saeho. / – He couldn’t do anything. – Seriously. / – It was too much. – Why are you clearing your throat? / – It’s nothing. You can explain later. They won’t let me explain later! I am sure they will. I can’t do this! He should smile and let a junior comedian – tell a story. / – Seriously. – Seriously. / – He isn’t even smiling. Sechan had to take medicine because he got an upset stomach. If he was disappointed in me, I want to apologize. – To whom? / – What’s important is that Heesuk came up with the perfect diagnosis – for Saeho. / – Saeho has the Nice Guy Syndrome. That’s right. You saw him clearly. He thinks, “What should I do if people think badly of me” “because of something I say or do?” Hanging out with Jaeseok worsened his condition. That’s correct. – That’s so true. / – That’s a bold comment. In any case, Saeho tries hard to be a nice guy. He is obsessed. – Today, the special is titled / – He looks so serious. “How to Be Funny.” The agency’s top five celebrities who earn the most are Nam Heesuk, Cho Saeho, Kim Shinyoung, Lee Yongjin, and Yang Sechan. – The top 5 celebrities. / – Who is the top 1? – If I may tell you honestly, / – Go ahead. no one can beat Saeho. – Really? / – He works a lot these days. – No one can beat him. / – Right. – When it comes to income, / – Treat us with dinner. no one can compare to him. He’s in a commercial with Lee Jungjae. Seeing him play a big role in it surprised me so much. – It was a bank commercial. / – That’s right. I was amazed to see him have that trust. If Saeho is at the top in terms of income, does he treat people around him? – Yes, he does. / – Really? I had a certain rule. When Saeho once offered to buy me a meal, I said, “You can do that when you earn more money than me.” Then he began to earn more money than me. He buys me meals. But it’s strange, you know. I wasn’t like this with other people, but I become uncomfortable when he buys me an expensive meal. I feel like it’s a waste of money. So I told him to stop. When he buys me a meal… You get a receipt after a meal, right? When Jaeseok buys a meal, he pays in secret. The junior comedians do the same. Jinho does the same. “Are you crazy? Why would you pay for my meal?” I had to scold him a few times afterward. As for Saeho, if I come back from the restroom… (As for Saeho…) (He flaps the receipt.) Oh, my goodness. That is so like Saeho. “Gosh, my card is bleeding.” “My card is bleeding.” – He is the worst. / – Seriously. He is the worst. – He is the worst. / – “My card is bleeding.” He does this when he buys a meal for a junior comedian. “Go and throw this away.” – Seriously. / – I don’t want them to feel bad. That’s why I do it. Don’t be ridiculous. Although he treats people to a meal very often, – That’s right. / – there are never stories of him doing a good deed. He treats people to a meal very often. Jaeseok pays and secretly leaves. – He is so cool. / – He secretly leaves. Jaeseok, I saw you for the first time when I was in Park Seungdae’s agency. – Right. / – I saw you for the first time – at his wedding. / – I see. Because you had a busy schedule, you ran after the wedding. Other comedians and I said, “Hello, Mr. Yu Jaeseok.” He halted and said hello. Out of his pocket, he took out 300 dollars. (He suddenly took out 300 dollars.) “Use this for a meal.” – Did I do that? / – Yes. “Use this for a meal.” It was Sechan, Yongjin, and me. – He said, / – That’s touching. “Use this to eat meat.” It’s much more heartwarming compared to Saeho’s story. – He’s amazing. / – Why don’t you learn this from him? – What did you say? / – Why don’t you learn this? – Seriously. / – Why don’t you? Why do you do this? (Why?) I will learn what I want. (I will learn what I want.) (The consequences of optional learning) Sanghun, some say you are the doormat of “Gag Concert.” – What does that mean? / – That’s right. – Seriously… / – Does he treat others often? Saeho treats others because he can afford to. – He treats others often. / – He doesn’t have money. He doesn’t have money. When his junior comedians were suffering – from the cold, / – They don’t have money. he bought them jumpers. – Really? / – He is the type – to make a fuss. / – I am the type to do that. “Who saved you from the cold during winter?” He says this whenever they walk by. – He keeps reminding them. / – “Who was it?” “Who kept your knees and elbows warm?” He is the type to make a fuss. When junior comedians can’t pay the monthly rent, he lends them money. “Sanghun, please buy me a meal.” “Okay.” He helps them out financially. Some people have gotten used to my kindness. Some people go, “Give me my monthly rent!” Some people do that – in a joking way. / – You know, it’s not like you have a lot of money. – That’s heartwarming. / – When I was young, I struggled a lot living in a studio apartment and working at a theater. – I got so much help. / – That’s right. My father told me, “You receive as much as you give.” – I heard that often, / – That’s right. – so I try to give a lot. / – That’s right. He gets disappointed when it doesn’t get returned. He is a bit timid. – You are like that. / – I am like that too. “Since I spent this much, I should get some feedback.” The lack of feedback is keeping him from being in “Gag Concert.” – Really? / – I can explain. When it was his birthday last year, he was on a hiatus from the show. Most of the time, the comedians wish each other a happy birthday. If would’ve been nice if everyone had sent him a message, but no one did. They had forgotten about him since he was on a hiatus. – It had been a while. / – Right. It made me a little sad. – Of course. / – I don’t talk about it though. I mentioned it to Jung Yunho who I’m close with over some drinks. I told him that I celebrated it with my wife alone. I said only a few close friends congratulated me. He went to “Gag Concert” and told everyone that I’m not returning because they didn’t congratulate me on my birthday. He blamed them for everything. And the rumor spread. So we decided to celebrate his wedding anniversary. Since we didn’t celebrate his birthday. It already passed though. This is how you become a bossy old man. (Welcome to the world of bossy old men.) – That’s how you become one. / – Right. I really liked him. So I asked him to come – when I was eating with Saeho. / – Right. This is one of the reasons why I like him. He met a physical therapist while working as one himself. – My goodness. / – She’s so beautiful. My wife said he’s the prettiest comedian’s wife. They are always together. They love traveling. She drinks with us too. Hanging out with my wife is the most fun thing to do. (Hanging out with his wife is the most fun thing.) – They are such lovebirds. / – They really are. They got married eight years after they started dating. – Eight years? / – They get along so well. My wife likes Heesuk and his wife. So we often hang out together. – You are close. / – We drink together often. Was there a time when Heesuk’s advice helped you? Yes. We were renting as newlyweds. And we decided to buy a house. I collect action figures and block toys. – It’s so hard to move with them. / – Right. Even though it was a stretch, we decided to buy a house. So we decided to move away from Seoul. Heesuk likes to beat around the bush. “Right. It’s all good.” “But we are close friends, aren’t we?” “We have to be close to meet up for drinks often.” “You can go. But if you move outside of Seoul,” “it’s going to be difficult for us to meet up.” “Don’t think about meeting me again.” That was me beating around the bush. I was the one buying my own house. And he was telling me to stay within Seoul instead of moving away from it. So we started looking for a house in Seoul. And we bought a house in Eungam-dong. I got a loan of twice as much as I originally planned. – Right. He got a big loan. / – It was so much. It was tough and worked hard to pay off the loan. When I did that, he said, “Well done. How nice is it to live nearby?” His house is incredible. It’s got a nice view too. – The house price went up slightly. / – Did it? – The house price went up. / – Yes. – That’s amazing. / – That’s incredible. Now that some time has passed, the house price went up a little. My wife trusts him entirely. I wasn’t saying that other cities were bad. – It’s nice everywhere nowadays. / – It is. I really adore this couple. I thought they were trying to buy a house on a whim without really knowing what they were doing. So I tried to stop him. After we moved in, we invited Heesuk and his wife first for a meal. From their house, the night view is incredible. (Thank you for your advice.) Saeho is the artist with the highest income. And Changhee is with the lowest income there. That’s not true. – It’s not true. / – Isn’t he doing better now? There is a group of artists that entered first, and among them, I have the lowest income. You are catching up though. I caught up, but many people, including Jaeseok and Heesuk, tell me that my time will come. – “Changhee, your time will come.” / – It’s coming. Saeho’s time came. “Your time is coming.” Yongjin’s time came. “Your time is coming.” And Sechan’s time came. When will my time come? – Your time will come / – Yes? as soon as Korea unifies. (It will come as soon as Korea unifies.) – So it will come. / – It will come. I want to correct something. I never said your time was going to come. It will get better. (It will get better.) Heesuk said Changhee’s time will come. But I always say this. Changhee, it will get better. Right. Jaeseok never gave me false hope. Heesuk was talking about your distant future. But I am talking about your near future. – You are right. / – Right. – It will get better. / – It’s much better now. – But now… / – I know he will get popular. So I told him to buy a car with a star mark. (Buy an imported car.) He always says that. He always tells you to spend first. “You will become successful, so spend first.” Everything is about making you feel better. “Buy this,” – “You’ll feel better.” / – You’ll feel better. “And you will become popular.” – So I bought it. / – Right. It immediately changed my mood. I got depressed. (He became depressed.) The leasing fee kept going up, and it was really hard to pay. So I got rid of that car. I told you to ride your old car a little longer. – Right. / – I didn’t tell you then, but I thought even that car was too much for you. I told him. – He always said this. / – Changhee… – “You can’t afford this.” / – “You can’t afford this.” You shouldn’t be chased by a Maltese or Yorkshire Terrier. You need to be chased by a lion. Only then you will work hard. When I told Saeho to buy an expensive car, he bought that car with a star mark for 20,000 dollars. It was 20,000 dollars. I don’t know how old that car was. He came riding that car. “I bought one as you told me.” I saw his car. And it wasn’t bad. When he pulled down the window, it fell, and it never went back up. (The window never went back up.) The problem with an imported car is that you are done for if it breaks down. It’s hard to get the parts. He ended up taping it. – Repairs cost a fortune. / – Repairs cost a fortune. He taped the outside and the inside. And the police were conducting a sobriety test. The police asked him to pull down the window, and he opened the door. “Don’t get off the car. Open the window.” “No, it’s…” “Don’t get off the car. Stay seated!” Policemen surrounded his car. “I said don’t get off the car.” – This is what I did. / – “Don’t get off.” You usually blow on the tester like this. I said, “I didn’t drink.” And they said, “Get off.” And the policeman held my hands. (He got tested with his hands handcuffed.) “Why did you do that?” “Listen to me. My window broke.” “What? It’s true.” He could’ve gotten a ticket. – It didn’t end there. / – Right. One day, it rained. Saeho’s gray car appeared. And there was something on top of his roof. There was a sunroof, but he couldn’t get it to close. So he drove slowly while holding up an umbrella. If he drove fast, the umbrella was going to flip. He drove slowly on the end lane. Things worked out better since you bought it, right? I tried hard not to ride that car anymore. You worked harder? Heesuk came up with a set of strange rules for success. – Right. / – Tell us. First, buy a car you don’t deserve. First, buy a car you can’t afford. Heesuk always says, “Even when you go to a grocery store nearby,” “don’t wear shabby clothes and slippers.” Right. “Someone might recognize you.” “So make sure you wear jeans and sneakers.” When you wear shabby clothes to a TV station, even if it’s just for practice. – He told me this too. / – Producers might… He told me not to wear training clothes. Producers have the power to hire us. It doesn’t give them a good impression. So I want them to dress nicely at all times. My artists are famous for always overdressing. Is that right? I went on a trip and once got stopped by an immigration officer. – Why? / – I was just traveling, but I was overly dressed up. “What is your purpose of visiting this country?” I almost got in big trouble. – That can happen. / – My friend was there too. I heard he was wearing a really flashy suit. A really flashy one. In the past, he told me not to wear hats. – Why not? / – I asked him why. He said nobody wearing a hat became a big star. Park Chanho is the only one. – Really, he’s got / – Also Park Sesi. a list of rules for success. I couldn’t understand it. I wore hats, but I became quite successful. (I became successful even if I wore hats.) He still wears hats these days. – I always wear a hat. / – He always wears hats. He’s got a set of rules for success. – It might work for some people. / – Yes. It might work for some. In the group chat, does Heesuk always post about how he’s doing? – In the group chat? / – In the group chat. We have a group chat. He treats it like his personal diary. – Does he? / – Give it to me. I will read it. Heesuk wrote, “I am going to Danang, Vietnam.” “My flight leaves at 6:40 p.m.” “My friend runs a travel agency.” That’s too much information. There’s no need to write this though. – It’s too much. / – When he said that, “Have fun, Heesuk.” “Have fun.” “Take care.” “Have a safe trip.” Nobody asked. – Why tell them the time? / – Why would you tell them? And when he’s returning? I thought they might want to know. He posted a photo of his dog that just gave birth. (Second evidence) It gave birth to girls. – He posted it. / – I am the one – who sent an emoticon. / – You are good. – “Speechless.” / – “I’m so touched.” “Congratulations.” “How cute.” “Congratulations.” – “Congratulations.” / – They couldn’t care less. “Time flies.” Jinho didn’t reply. He didn’t reply. – Jinho didn’t reply. / – Why didn’t you reply? I don’t like messaging. It’s a hassle for me. (It’s a hassle for me.) – So… / – You never reply. When it says three people didn’t read it, I am relieved. “He wouldn’t know it’s me.” The next day, it would say it’s seen by everyone. Then I say, “I just saw it.” I heard your reply is always the same. “Take care, Heesuk. It’s lovely, Heesuk.” Do you copy and paste? You always say the same things. He’s a lonely man, isn’t he? Heesuk’s been in the industry longest, you know. This is something I just can’t understand. One day, I was resting at home. It was 9 p.m. Heesuk would send me a message. “I’m at Mokdong right now.” What does he want me to do? – Right. / – Right. He could’ve said, “Do you want to grab a drink?” He wouldn’t say that. He can’t ask me that directly. – That’s why I say, / – “Come to me.” “I’m home. Can I come and meet you?” He always uses an emoticon. The fox one, for example. “I love it.” That’s how he responds. It’d be better if he tells us what exactly he wants. He was abroad, and he messaged me and said where he was. – He came. / – You went there? – He went there? / – Why did you go there? I know him. That means he wants me there. I was overly loyal. That’s how I was. It was when I had a girlfriend. – And? / – You had a girlfriend? Yes. I had one, but I didn’t tell you about her. I was worried you will feel uncomfortable to call me. (So he kept his relationship a secret.) You were overly loyal. Yes. I was overly loyal. She and I spent a month preparing for a trip with her. I freed my schedule. – He suddenly called me on the day. / – Oh, no. – He asked to meet up that day. / – My gosh. You should’ve said no. But I had to be loyal to him. So I canceled the trip. You canceled the trip with your girlfriend? I went to meet him. – But it’s… / – He doesn’t know these things. I was next to him. I knew about his plan too. I told him he should say he’s going on a trip with his parents. I told him to lie. He didn’t want to lie to Heesuk. Changhee can’t lie. He apologized to his girlfriend. Changhee doesn’t lie. That’s too much. How did your girlfriend react? – She was really mad. / – Of course. – She could break up with you. / – We nearly broke up. – Of course. / – Didn’t she ask you, – “Is it me or Heesuk?” / – Right. What did you say when she asked that? I begged her to understand me just for that one time. – That’s so disappointing. / – She couldn’t possibly – understand that. / – She couldn’t. – If it happened again, / – That’s not understandable. I wouldn’t do that again. – I don’t know why I did that. / – Why did you do that? Why did you go to that extent? I thought I was going to succeed if I do what he tells me to do. He taught me a lot of rules for success. – What do you say, Yoonhee? / – I thought I had to – live by his rules. / – What would you do if your boyfriend does that? She’s speechless. I wouldn’t see him ever again. – Right. / – Just for that? – This happened too. / – Why did you do that? If it’s hot, you could say, “Should we get some ice cream?” He would never say that. – “It’s hot, isn’t it?” / – Right. “What do you do when it’s hot?” “Me? I turn on the AC.” “You turn on the AC, right?” “Do you want some ice cream?” “Should we have some ice cream?” He never asks for ice cream first. – Right. / – Why not? – How uncomfortable. / – How frustrating. – It’s so frustrating. / – This is what his wife said. When he asks, “Do we have it?”, she knows it means that he wants kimchi stew. Four years after we got married, – she yelled at me. / – Why? She’s usually always polite. She was working in the kitchen. Then she walked to me. “Just tell me to cook kimchi stew.” She said I never asked her to cook kimchi stew. But I did. This is what I said. “Honey,” “do we have aged kimchi?” Right. – You beat around the bush. / – For four years. – But I didn’t realize this. / – He didn’t know. – You didn’t know. / – Here’s what’s funny. My daughter is in fifth grade, and she talks like me. – How does she talk? / – “Don’t you feel hot, Dad?” “Don’t you feel hot?” “Turn on the AC.” “The AC makes it too cold.” She was trying to get me to buy her ice cream. She didn’t mention it first. That’s how she talks. Right. A lot of experienced celebrities seem to feel bad for Changhee. Who are some of them? – We are included. / – There’s Jeongsu. – Jeongsu is like that. / – There’s Gura too. There’s Gura too. Myungsoo feels bad for me too. But they care for you in different ways. Yes. In Jaeseok’s case, he calls me often. – I call him often. / – He entertains me. He always makes jokes and not talk seriously. – “Are you lying down?” / – “No, I am sitting down.” – He tells me to lie down. / – “Lie down then.” (Move, Changhee.) – That’s all we talk about. / – Yes. That’s all we talk about. – “Are you lying down?” / – “No, I’m sitting down.” – “Then lie down.” Right. / – “Okay, I will.” – That’s how we talk. / – “Are you home? Go out.” – “Are you outside? Go home.” / – “Go home.” – “Are you watching TV?” / – “Turn it off.” “Turn it off.” – “I’m not watching TV.” / – “Then turn on the TV.” (Jaeseok is the cheerful and playful type.) – We talk like this. / – Yes. But when I meet Heesuk, he’s very serious. – Right. He’s serious. / – He tells me – the rules for success. / – He gives advice. Rules for success. He’s good at that. In Gura’s case, we never talk often. But if I happen to get sick or something, he somehow finds out and calls me. He hears all the gossip. – He hears all the gossip. / – Yes. He hears all the gossip in the entertainment industry. He hears about my news and calls me. “I heard you are unwell.” “Take good care of your health.” Gura calls – when you are unwell. / – When you get sick. – Right. / – Whenever you get sick, – he somehow finds out and calls. / – Right. I am comfortable with Myungsoo. I sometimes text him. Myungsoo never invites people to his house, but he invites Changhee often. He often invites me to his house party. When I send him a text message, he ignores them all. About a month later, he replies, “Get lost.” I don’t know why he does that. He can just ignore it. – That’s how he’s like. / – How about Hong Jinkyung? Jinkyung gives me her full material and emotional support. – She really does. / – She really thinks about me. – Right. / – And she is very generous. – Right. / – She’s a really good person. Jinkyung really cares about you two. – Yes. / – I am really grateful for her. Why do you think you are so loved by many people? I am really bad at saying no. – I always say yes. / – Right. When Jaeseok tells me to lie down, I actually lie down. – I’m not joking. / – You’re not. If he tells me to lie when I’m sitting down, I lie down and talk to him. I do that even if people can’t see me. – Saeho is also loved by many seniors. / – Right. – A lot of people love him. / – Yes. I heard you can’t forget when you first met Heesuk. I was in eighth grade when I saw him for the very first time. I was going to a middle school in Gayang-dong. In school, there was a rumor that Heesuk lived in the town. But no one had actually seen him in real life. One day, it was Saturday, and I was on my way home. I was walking. No kid would shout politely, “It’s Nam Heesuk!” We saw someone who looks like Heesuk. He was across the street. “Nam Heesuk!” Heesuk was there. “Nam Heesuk! Mr. Hahoetal!” “Hey, Heesuk!” My friends and I did that. We thought he would get angry at us, but he did this. I’m not exaggerating. When we shouted, “Nam Heesuk!”… (He bowed at a 90° angle.) – He’s a true celebrity. / – He did a full bow. – You must’ve felt awkward. / – We felt so awkward. We realized we made a mistake. He bowed at us at a 90° angle. We thought we shouldn’t make fun of him. We just left without saying sorry. I really admired him. I always wanted to become a comedian. – Why did you do that? / – There were six lanes. If I was next to them, they would’ve been done for. – I know Heesuk’s personality. / – Jaeseok knows. – Jaeseok knows me. / – I know him. I was really surprised. – Jaeseok knows me. / – We were admiring you. He wouldn’t just watch them do that. – He hates rude people. / – There are no good stories about me because I fight back if someone gets rude. I remember it. – There were 6 lanes. / – There were 6 lanes. I remember it because that was the only time I didn’t get to take revenge. (That’s the only time he didn’t get to take revenge.) They were too far away. You would’ve gotten back to them otherwise. They were too far from me. It was really shocking for us. – His manners surprised you. / – And when I auditioned to become a comedian as a 20-year-old, he was the MC of that event. He was the MC for a Chuseok special – comedian audition show. / – We were meant to meet. When the shoot ends, most people say okay and leave. He’s similar to Jaeseok. He shook my hand and asked me what my name was. I told him, “My name is Cho Saeho.” He said, “What? Cho Saeho?” “I will remember your name.” That’s a big deal for a rookie, you know. Jinho, you said Heesuk is like a parent to you. He takes really good care of me. Our group chat was mentioned a while ago, but I’m in about eight groups that includes him. – Really? / – Yes. Whenever I go on a show and perform well, he messages me. “Well done, boy. I am so proud of you.” He sends me hearts. He always does that. He must be busy, but he always checks my works. That’s not easy to do unless you truly care. Yongjin and I put on a comedy show called “Yongjinho Show.” Heesuk produced that show. We always had the idea, but we never realized it. He helped us bring it to life. Even after the performance ended, he praised me. He planned for the next one too. – I’m so grateful for those things. / – I planned that show because I think they are the coolest and the sexiest men ever. I can’t believe there are such amazing comedians. I hope you will come and see the next performance. Suji, when you were getting married, did Heesuk give you the biggest monetary gift? – Did he really? / – He did. When you get married, your family records how much each person gave the couple. – Right. / – He told me not to look at it. I was in the bride’s waiting room, so I had no idea how much each person gave us. My mom said, “Dear Heesuk.” When I saw her saying that, I assumed he must’ve given me a big sum. “Sanghun was here.” It was nothing like that. From that, I could make a guess. – “Dear Heesuk.” She said that, / – That’s funny. and I knew he must’ve given more than 500 dollars. – That’s what I thought. / – She’s cute. You are the one raising the price. What have I done? – You… / – What is it? We are suffering because of Jaeseok. Stop giving money to young comedians on the way home. – Just treat them to food. / – I am sorry. – It’s tough for us. / – I am sorry. I was really poor when I was young. And I think they remind me of that time. Give your monetary gift anonymously. – Should I do that? / – That could work. But now they will know it’s me. (His gift is too big to hide.) – Right. / – What do I do? When I attend a wedding with Jaeseok, I think about the amount and ask him how much he’s going to give. When I hear it… I think, “What am I doing?” – Right. / – “Is it” – I am sorry. / – “too small?” – I didn’t mean that. / – Too small. I didn’t mean to put pressure on you. Suji brings her skits to life with her acting. I hear that caused a misunderstanding. Yes, she’s a brilliant actor. Well… I normally like to do parodies voice impressions of people.